江小潮 发表于 2025-8-5 08:39:35

微信谈生意欠款4万,该找个人还是公司?

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color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span leaf=""><span textstyle="" style="font-weight: bold;">案情回顾:</span></span></section></section><section style="width: 30px;flex-shrink: 0;box-sizing:border-box;" nodeleaf=""><span class="wxart_image" wx-style="display:inline-block;width: 100%;display: block;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;max-width:100% !important;"></span></section></section><section style="width: 100%;height: 1px;background-color: #364796;margin-top: 3px;max-width:100% !important;box-sizing:border-box;" data-width="100%"><span leaf=""><br></span></section></section><section style="background-color: #f3f5fb;padding: 30px 25px;box-sizing:border-box;"><section data-autoskip="1" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 1.75em; font-size: 16px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); background: transparent;"><p style="line-height: 1.6em; text-indent: 2.1875em;"><span leaf="">杨某是某纸塑公司法定代表人,施某是某食品公司股东。2019年5月,施某以微信名“某某食品”,杨某以微信名“湖北某某纸塑包装”,通过微信方式磋商、定作月饼包装袋的规格与型号。施某通过微信转账向杨某支付定作款3000元。随后,某纸塑公司分三次将包装袋交付至某食品公司所在地,施某在纸塑公司送货单上签字确认,包装袋的价款共计44000元。此后,杨某将加盖有公司公章的对账单通过微信发送给施某,但某食品公司没有支付定作款。</span></p></section></section></section></section><section data-role="paragraph"><p><span leaf=""><br></span></p></section><section data-tools="135编辑器" data-id="107403"><section style="text-align: left;margin: 10px auto;"><section style="display: inline-block;"><section style="display: flex;justify-content: center;align-items: center;"><section style="background-color: #e5c694;padding: 2px 10px;margin-right: 4px;box-sizing:border-box;"><section data-brushtype="text" style="font-size: 18px; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span leaf="">法院审理:</span><span leaf=""><br></span></section></section><section style="width: 30px;flex-shrink: 0;box-sizing:border-box;" nodeleaf=""><span class="wxart_image" wx-style="display:inline-block;width: 100%;display: block;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;max-width:100% !important;"></span></section></section><section style="width: 100%;height: 1px;background-color: #364796;margin-top: 3px;max-width:100% !important;box-sizing:border-box;" data-width="100%"><span leaf=""><br></span></section></section><section style="background-color: #f3f5fb;padding: 30px 25px;box-sizing:border-box;"><section data-autoskip="1" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 1.75em; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); background: transparent;"><p style="line-height: 1.6em;font-size: 16px;text-indent: 2.1875em;"><span style="text-indent: 2.1875em;background-color: transparent;caret-color: red;"><span leaf="">仙桃法院认为,</span><strong><span style="text-indent: 2.1875em;background-color: transparent;caret-color: red;color: #175aad;"><span leaf="">关于两个自然人之间通过微信洽谈定作包装袋事宜,为什么最后的当事人却是两个公司的问题</span></span></strong><span style="text-indent: 2.1875em;background-color: transparent;caret-color: red;color: #175aad;"><span leaf="">。</span></span><span leaf="">杨某作为原告纸塑公司的法定代表人,从洽谈业务、派送包装袋的送货单以及最终结算的对账单,均是以公司名义从事的民事活动,其行为属于职务行为,对公司发生法律效力。从被告食品公司的经营范围来看,其是生产糕点的企业,存在月饼包装袋需求,施某作为股东,以公司的名义与杨某磋商定作月饼包装袋,所定作的包装袋均送至公司所在地,施某在送货单上签字确认,结合送货单、对账单上载明的客户均为某食品公司,且实际使用包装袋的也是公司,施某的行为亦属于职务行为。故足以认定定作合同关系的双方当事人为纸塑公司与食品公司。根据《中华人民共和国民法典》第六十一条规定,依照法律或者法人章程的规定,</span><strong><span style="text-indent: 2.1875em;background-color: transparent;caret-color: red;color: #e36c09;"><span leaf="">代表法人从事民事活动的负责人,为法人的法定代表人。法定代表人以法人名义从事的民事活动,其法律后果由法人承受。</span></span></strong><span leaf="">......</span></span></p><p style="line-height: 1.6em;font-size: 16px;text-indent: 2.1875em;"><span leaf=""><br></span></p><p style="line-height: 1.6em;font-size: 16px;text-indent: 2.1875em;"><span leaf="">关于</span><span style="color:#175aad;"><strong><span leaf="">杨某作为原告纸塑公司的法定代表人,施某作为食品公司股东,这两种职务行为有什么区别的问题。</span></strong></span><span leaf="">法定代表人的代表权由法律或章程规定,一般无需单独授权,因此法定代表人的行为在外部展现出高度信赖性。区分法定代表人的行为是职务行为还是个人行为,主要看法定代表人以谁的名义实施行为,以及实施行为后的利益归属。本案中杨某的行为便属于此类法定代表人的职务行为。根据</span><span style="text-indent: 2.1875em;background-color: transparent;caret-color: red;"><span leaf="">《中华人民共和国民法典》第一百七十条规定,</span><strong><span style="text-indent: 2.1875em;background-color: transparent;caret-color: red;color: #e36c09;"><span leaf="">执行法人或者非法人组织工作任务的人员,就其职权范围内的事项,以法人或者非法人组织的名义实施的民事法律行为,对法人或者非法人组织发生效力。</span></span></strong><span leaf="">......</span></span></p><p style="line-height: 1.6em;font-size: 16px;text-indent: 2.1875em;"><span style="text-indent: 2.1875em;background-color: transparent;caret-color: red;"><span leaf=""><br></span></span></p><p style="line-height: 1.6em;text-indent: 2.1875em;font-size: 16px;"><span leaf="">最终经仙桃市人民法院判决,扣除已经支付的定作款3000元,被告食品公司于判决生效之日起10日内向原告纸塑公司支付定作款41000元。</span></p></section></section></section></section><p style="vertical-align:inherit;"><span leaf=""><br></span></p><section data-role="title" data-tools="135编辑器" data-id="107413"><section style="text-align: center;margin: 10px auto;"><section style="display: inline-block;"><section style="width: 100%;height: 1px;background: linear-gradient(to right,#fff 0%,#fff 35%,#364796 100%);margin-bottom: 5px;max-width:100% !important;box-sizing:border-box;" data-width="100%"><span leaf=""><br></span></section><section style="display: flex;justify-content: center;align-items: flex-start;transform-style: preserve-3d;padding-right: 10px;box-sizing:border-box;"><section style="width: 30px; margin-top: 5px; margin-right: -10px; flex-shrink: 0; box-sizing: border-box; transform: translateZ(10px);" nodeleaf=""><span class="wxart_image" wx-style="display:inline-block;width: 100%;display: block;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;max-width:100% !important;transform: rotateY(180deg);-webkit-transform: rotateY(180deg);-moz-transform: rotateY(180deg);-o-transform: rotateY(180deg);"></span></section><section style="background: linear-gradient(to right,#fff 0%,#dce1f7 100%);padding: 7px 18px;box-sizing:border-box;transform: skew(-25deg);-webkit-transform: skew(-25deg);-moz-transform: skew(-25deg);-o-transform: skew(-25deg);"><section data-brushtype="text" style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(54, 71, 150); transform: skew(25deg);"><span leaf="">法官提醒</span></section></section></section><section style="width: 100%;height: 1px;background-color: #364796;max-width:100% !important;box-sizing:border-box;transform: rotate(0deg);-webkit-transform: rotate(0deg);-moz-transform: rotate(0deg);-o-transform: rotate(0deg);" data-width="100%"><span leaf=""><br></span></section></section></section></section><p style="text-indent: 37px;font-size: 16px;"><span leaf="">个人在履行公司职务时,要注意明确是以公司的名义从事民事法律行为,尽量签署书面的合同或者协议,并加盖公司的公章,以免自己个人卷入诉讼。提供定作服务的一方,也应当查明对方是个人行为还是职务行为,并留存相关证据,以减少实现债权的风险。</span></p><p style="text-indent: 37px;font-size: 16px;"><span leaf=""><br></span></p><section data-tools="135编辑器" data-id="107410"><section style="text-align: center;margin: 10px auto;"><section style="display: inline-block;"><section style="width: 30px;margin: auto;box-sizing:border-box;" nodeleaf=""><span class="wxart_image" wx-style="display:inline-block;width: 100%;display: block;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;max-width:100% !important;"></span></section><section data-brushtype="text" style="font-size: 16px;letter-spacing: 0.5px;color: #364796;"><strong><span leaf="">END</span></strong></section></section></section></section></section></section></section></section></section></section><section><span leaf=""><br></span></section><section><span leaf=""><br></span></section></section></section><section style="line-height: 1.5em;" data-pm-slice="3 8 []"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; 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